February 11, 2014 -- Today's Open Face Chinese Poker hand is Pineapple-OFC. We are dealt Kings with a Queen and some connectors. As usual we
will be focused on finding the highest royalty and scoop equity, along with the best Fantasyland EV.
OFO observes variable-value Fantasyland, where QQ gets 13 cards, KK gets 14, and AA gets 15 for the FL round, yielding
a higher expected value per extra Fantasyland card: 13 - 2.3 points, 14 - 6.2 points, 15 - 12.4 points. However since many of the app and
casino games play QQ+ 14-card Fantasyland, we will also score the hand as such. Scoring at bottom of each line.
This hand was played live and comments are made at the time of decisions.
The most typical play if shooting straight for Fantasyland is KK middle, Q front and connectors in back.
This play has a decent chance to make Fantasyland, but may give up scoop and royalty equity.
Setting here is focused on royalties, with a backdoor chance at Fantasyland. This is a conservative play that is
a common defense against
someone else's Fantasyland, where you expect scoring to be high.
Depending on the rules you are playing, KK may be a qualifier to get to FL, in which case it would be
aggro but probably right to set the Kings in front. How to support them is the question, and I have
chosen in this instance not to try to go for the spade flush, but rather set up a back row that can
straighten or two-pair+ while hoping for AA or a smaller two-pair middle.
A decent if not excellent pull, with one of the pair cards needed in back arriving. The 4 goes in middle,
leaving room in front for a scoring pair card such as J, in the case the other Q does not arrive.
With no K or T in the pull, it's no longer realistic to set for the middle flush draw, as the boat and flush
draws each are ~35% to complete. A pair of 9's is a good start to a middle row win. The 4 is added in middle because
it adds two-pair scoop equity, as well as adding no value to the front, which we'll keep open for something better.
Although I'd prefer to see a J here instead of the 9, the plan in still intact. I might prefer two unders in the
middle; however it's hard to pass on the 9.
The two-pair is now made in back, and if a Q comes we have safely made Fantasyland. The 4 would make a strong two-pair in the middle,
but it's senseless to set it there since it puts us in foul jeopardy, especially as the KK already helps us get to
FL. The worst case scenario for the front then, is A-high with a Q kicker which can often be good against one or sometimes two opponents.
A strong two-pair back sets the stage for a boat with scoop equity. The 4 could be paired in the middle, but an A is
so strong in front I'd prefer to set that there. There are still 5 Q's and 4's left in the deck, as well, if we catch
an A for FL and need two-pair support in middle.
The middle is a tough spot here. I have chosen to set the A hoping for one more in 6 cards. Setting the 4 is
certainly an option; however, it would be necessary to catch another pair that doesn't beat the back row. With six
cards coming, it certainly is possible, but I'd rather need 1 of 3 live cards than 2 of 4.
Fantasyland is made; hopefully the final pull brings us some royalty equity in the form of a full house.
A better two-pair than 9944 has arrived with the Queen. The 7 is set in front as a royalty hedge, but now
the stage is set for an A-high Fantasyland bink (which in our scoring system gives the highest FL EV).
Now I'd like to have that 4 back, so the middle could look like 4467, needing 1 of 6 cards on the river pull rather
than the lone A. However, at the time it was set, it was the right play. In this situation I'll close out
the front and leave the door open for an unlikely 47 combo as a plan B to no A arriving.
This set ran closer to optimal than the others, which is no great surprise as it had a Fantasyland
trajectory that was fairly safe. The connecting back was the key; if the boat had not happened, there
were two-pair and straight options there. Catching the K on the river was an unexpected bonus that
added quite a bit of royalty and scoop equity.
SCOOP EQUITY: 6
FL EV: 2.3/6.2
TOTAL SCORE: +23.3 / +27.3
Kings-over-Tens full house most likely wins the back row against a Fantasyland hand, and with a decent
two pair in the middle and an A-high front, this is a good Fantasyland-defend that could minimize damage and score between 3 and -3 points.
If an Ace had come it would have been worth 28.4 points. It also appears the boat/flush/44 hand could have
been made, so if the purpose of the hand was to go for royalties and not to worry about Fantasyland, perhaps
this hand was not set optimally.
SCOOP EQUITY: 1
FL EV: 0
TOTAL SCORE: +7
Foul! It was an aggressive set to begin with, and while I'm not against aggro setting,
you probably need a better supporting cast in your first five
to support the KK front-row set, like at least one A or a pair. The minimum loss is 6 points.
SCOOP EQUITY: -6
FL EV: 0
TOTAL SCORE: -6
The royalty # is an aggregate of all 3 rows (see scoring chart here). The
scoop equity # gives the likelihood of a scoop or being scooped, a range of 12 points from +6 to -6. The FL EV is Fantasyland Expected Value; in other words
how many points you will generally score in the Fantasyland round if you qualify. Open Face Odds works with a variable-value
system for Fantasyland in Pineapple OFC, where qualifying with QQ gives you 13-card Fantasyland, KK gives 14-card and AA is 15-card.
At this time we value Pineapple FL at 13-card: 2.3 points, 14-card: 6.2 points, 15-card: 12.4 points.
To run your own simulations or just for practice, try Open Face Odds' training modules, where you can practice setting for Pineapple, Turbo,
Fantasyland, and other situations. Click any of these links to find a module:
Pineapple v. 14-card Fantasyland
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